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captofthesswolfstar:

marauders70s:

jk-destroyed-our-best-gay-ships:

sirius, honey, your gay is showing

It is spoken. It is canon.

And the joint christmas gifts, and the 40 line stare, and the constant “Me and James were jerks but MY HUSBAND MOONY IS A SAINT!” okay maybe those weren’t his exact words, but come on….

And listening when Remus tells him to do something. (Sirius, sit down) 

And cohabitation (Lupin was staying at Headquarters specifically WITH SIRIUS) 

IT’S EVERYWHERE

wait a sec do you mean remus and sirius are actually… together ? O_o

jk-destroyed-our-best-gay-ships:

if i ever become a best seller author ( which wont happen but who cares ) i want to do a website like pottermore but instead of all the stupid things jk is feeding us i’ll publish the most useless bits of trivia

“to understand this character, you have to know that at age 6 they banged their toe against their bedside table. the incident shaped them into the person they are today”

Your Peter’s betrayal actually made me think about more than the one side we’re used to looking at it from. It doesn’t excuse his actions but makes them a lot more plausible and ‘holy shit balls’ type of mind blown. I’m so used to shutting on him that I never thought that that’s what happened. It doesn’t make me automatically like his character but gives him more depth. It also makes me rethink how I didn’t include rat prints in my maurauder tattoo tbh

awwww thank you that’s an amazing ask to receive !

i only got this epiphany myself about an hour ago… so glad people can understand my incoherent rambling and relate to it

also SHOW ME THE TATTOO I WANNA SEE IT

marauders70s:

captofthesswolfstar:

jilylicious:

jk-destroyed-our-best-gay-ships:

captofthesswolfstar:

siriusblackfoot:

harrypotterconfessions:

I feel like the only people who can like Peter Pettigrew are those who have created a fanfiction version of him. Canonly, Peter is a horrible traitor who got accepted into a group of people who cared about him, but the 1st chance he got, he betrayed them to someone he thought tougher. He’s an opportunistic coward who spied on the Order for years and then sold out his friends to Voldemort knowing they had a baby, and got Sirius sent to prison for 12 years. He is scum, period.

I don’t think anyone is trying to say that Peter wasn’t a horrible person; it’s pretty clear that he was. There are lots of things to debate in the HP fandom but the fact that Peter Pettigrew is scum isn’t one of them.

People who “like” Peter don’t necessarily actually like him. I mean, I can only really speak for myself but I feel like we writers include him in our Marauders fics because canonically, he was in Gryffindor with the others and canonically, he was a Marauder too, and one of their closest friends. The Marauders weren’t James, Sirius, and Remus + an awkward tag-along kid, the Marauders were the four of them. Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot and Prongs.

That’s exactly why Peter’s betrayal is so horrible and infuriating, because he was just as much a part of the Marauders as any of the others. No one expected him to do what he did, not James, not Lily, not even Sirius, and that makes it all the more heartbreaking because no one saw it coming, not from Peter. They did accept him. What’s more, they trusted him. They shouldn’t have, but they did, and there had to have been reasons for that. So yeah, he sucks. But writing him into fics as a likable (albeit awkward and shy, etc.) person is actually vital to ultimately creating the proper feelings of horror and disgust about what he did.

No one’s saying he didn’t turn out to be a piece of shit in the end – we’re writing him into fics because it’s important to.

OP is definitely missing the entire point of Peter. 

also, i dont think “he betrayed them the 1st chance he got” is fair

he didnt spy on the order for years. i think it was one year max, and the scene in the shack more than clearly shows that peter would have been killed if he hadnt told the death eaters the truth

peter didnt walk into voldemort’s house ( does voldemort has a house ? where did he live? ) and said “heya dark lord i wanna sell you my friends”. it started with little things, like when the order planned an attack, etc… also, voldemort was a skilled legilimens, so to me it probably helped to get peter to feel entirely helpless and completely terrified

peter would have died if he hadnt sold out his friends. now you may think he should have died with honor, protecting his friends, but you cant just assume everyone is brave enough to make this choice.

tdlr : peter didnt betray his friends the first chance he got, he was more likely under extreme mental manipulation and death threats for a long time and just wanted to stay alive. im not saying he’s good, im saying his story is complicated

I’m twitching.

whatever OP.

lol.

Unless you yourself are currently 20-something and actively fighting in a war where you may actually have to lay your life on the line for someone else I really don’t think you get the right to say you wouldn’t do what Peter did. Sorry.

I’m not here to fight OP I’m just here to say my personal piece about PP. 

I think the reason Peter is so painfully pathetic and such a disgusting villain is that so many of us see ourselves in Peter. I know I do. And when I write him, I write my insecurities. At always being a little less than my friends. Or always being just a little bit more outside the group. Of always being welcome but never being first. Of never being someone’s person the way Sirius and James had. Of always being less attractive, or less smart, or less outgoing, or less fun, or just…less. Of not being enough. And even if you were included; even if you were in pictures, that smile on your face hurting just a little more as you watch the others grow closer and you keep edging in, trying harder and harder to belong.

And how attractive it would be after all that time to be told you were worthwhile. That you weren’t just a waste of space. To be told you were valuable and smart and brave. To be wooed and praised and finally your insecurities were watered by a rain of interest and sincerity. And maybe too late you discover it was poison. And too late you discover you’re the rat in a cage and you can’t get out. 

YES ALL OF THIS ! i nearly cried reading your addition bc i relate so much, and i think it’s an essential part of who peter was…

thoughts on peter’s betrayal

im sharing my thoughts in a new post, both to expand on it and allow people who wanted to read/share but werent comfortable with discourse to read/share

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peter didnt betray his friends just because he was in a bad mood !!!! his story is, to me, one of the most complex and interesting one in the saga

lets take a closer look at the shack scene in book three where his betrayal is revealed, shall we?

Remus : “For the first time ever, I had friends, three great friends… Sirius… Peter… and, of course, James”

notice how peter’s name is the second to be named? same on the map. peter was often described as a tag along by adults, but he obviously wasnt. he was important in their friend group, far more than we believe.

Remus, talking about how difficult the animagus process was : “Peter needed all the help he could get.”

the process, according to remus, could have gone terribly wrong! and peter was struggling! he was obviously taking very big risks, but he did so for remus. that’s incredibly brave! no one could have blamed him if he stopped bc it was becoming very dangerous for him, but he didnt! he obviously cared so much for his friends!

sirius : “Voldemort would never dream they’d use a weak, talentless thing like you…”

once again, we can see it : peter was underestimated by everyone and probably wasnt very academically inclined

Hermione : “How come he never tried to hurt Harry before now?”

okay, so i know we shouldnt congratulate peter for not murdering someone, but hey its true : during 12 years, peter was behaving just fine! he bit the fingers of the bullies who made fun of harry, and that shows that he isnt just evil. its not much, but it actually proves that he cared at least a little bit about harry, or at least felt guilty enough to do it, and that’s something

Peter : “Sirius, Sirius, what could i have done? The Dark Lord… you have no idea… he has weapons you cant even imagine… I was scared, Sirius, I was never brave like you and Remus and James, I never meant for it to happen… You-Know-Who forced me…”

ALRIGHT LET’S ANALYSE THAT

alright so its obvious that peter was completely terrified, which is understandable. the “what could i have done” also makes me think that peter didnt think that he had a choice, and the “forced me” just emphasizes that. he felt completely powerless in front of voldemort, and it probably helped that he was always seen as weak : he just didnt consider that he could possibly said no. but its more complicated than that

its the “weapons you cant imagine” that catches my attention… the wizarding wars arent really a matter of weapons : you only have your magic skills. the only weapon mentionned is, i think, the prophecy. so i think it’s quite clear the weapons are just unusual bits of magic. you know what kind of magic voldemort excelled at ? mental manipulation. he was an amazing legilimens and when he was just a kid he managed to persuade two other kids to follow him in a very dangerous and scary place. i think it’s what happened to peter : he was mentally used and probably tortured by voldemort.

all of that is made worse by what sirius then says : “you’d been passing information to him for a year before”

okay so there is a well known manipulation technique that consists in asking for a small favor to build your way up to bigger ones – first asking to borrow 5 dollars then to just be given 20, to simplify it.

obviously this isnt the same, but i do believe than in a year, voldemort was able to use both psychology and magic mental manipulation to get peter under his complete control. imagine : it starts with voldemort asking when the next order mission is, then when peter refuses to tell him get the answer via legilimancy, to make him feel powerless. it builds up, the mental manipulation and constant mind abuse keeps going until he asks for the potters, and then all of that plus the legitimate fear of being killed just makes it easier to persuade peter to tell him

i think this whole mental abuse is also the reason why peter goes back to voldemort, and seems completely terrified of him even tho he’s a defenseless half life, being ready to give up his hand for him.

clarification : NO i am not trying to say peter is innocent, he did something terrible and kept doing terrible things afterwards, but his story is more complicated than “he was evil” or “he was scared”